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No, it isn’t, it is a flag. A flag is not racist. A person is rasict. A statement can be considered racist. Now if the flag were branded with racial slurs or other means of hatred, I could understand, however, it does not.
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the confederate flag is racist because it was the flag used by the confederate armies who were doing what? oh yeah fighting for their right to enslave, torture, and murder people based on their race!
i bet you’d agree that a flag with a swastika on it was racist. this is the same situation.
Okay, so this flag was the flag that represented the Confederate States of America- I believe they first started using it in 1863 or 1864- either way it was introduced during the Civil War. So it doesn’t quite represent Southern “states”- it represented the states that succeeded from the United States. So technically it’s not a symbol of the Southern states, it’s a symbol of succession and the nation they claimed to have formed. A lot of people used it as an alternate to the the American flag.
BUT- and here’s why in my opinion this flag has become a symbol of hate- it didn’t gain popularity or much recognition until the mid 20th century particularly during WWII and in the time following it. During the Civil Right’s movement, Southern’s who were opposed to desegregation began displaying it to represent their opposition to federal laws (ie their resistance to the North). And then of course the KKK and other hate groups have embraced the flag as well (for the very reason listed above).
factual burn!if it was all about southern pride, black southerners would have this flag. and funny how no one ever flies the first flag. hmm.
There were southern blacks that willing fought for this flag, and there’s pictures to prove it.
Being forced to fight doesn’t count.
What sense does it make to give a man a gun that doesn’t want to fight? He could just shot you and leave. A lot that fought, fought willingly.
Still waiting on that proof, sis. And even If i did believe that there were Black folk fighting by choice to stay slaves, I highly doubt that white folks were delusional or comfortable enough to arm them. Also even if you could back this bullshit up, comparing the amount of Black people fighting against these confederate assholes to the amount who (allegedly) chose to fight for the confederacy would blow your argument away.
Real cute, but in trying so hard to be a smart-ass you negated your own point.
From Mariners’ Museum:
Now, before you get excited, keep in mind that Stauffer points out that many of these black soldiers were not accepted by the Confederate government and were not issued firearms: still more of these soldiers were coerced into joining the military, and others joined to escape miserable poverty. Professor Carol Sheriff of the College of William and Mary reinforces the notion that any blacks who fought did so somewhat involuntarily, by clarifying that some black body-servants may have taken up arms in the heat of battle to defend their masters and themselves, and even then they were sometimes forced to do so. (Article HERE.) She also makes the point that arming blacks or allowing them to fight in the military was illegal in the Confederacy. This makes it extremely difficult to claim that the Confederates used black troops, because refusing to allow them to fight and forcing them to join in the first place quashes the notion that they were soldiers. In any case, they were present in such minuscule numbers that it’s difficult to validate their presence – these “soldiers” only represented about one half of one percent of the Confederate military strength.
And it gets better!
The greatest single example of black Confederate soldiers – the Louisiana Native Guards, composed of black and mixed-race men from the New Orleans area – was not accepted by the Confederate military despite their wish to fight for the south when the war broke out (Article HERE.) As a result, when the Union took New Orleans in spring of 1862, the Louisiana Native Guards joined the Union when General Butler called for reinforcements. On a side note, over 4,000 black and mixed-race men joined the Union army in New Orleans that spring, which outnumbers those that may have joined the Confederacy over the course of the entire war.
A sample of “ranks” held by Black soldiers from blackconfederatesoldiers.com
And finally, an article from Harvard professor John Stauffer giving details on why you, & all other neo-confederates are completely full of shit.
It is well known that in Louisiana and Tennessee, Stauffer added, Confederate units were organized by elite, light-skinned freedmen who identified with the slave-owning white plantation culture. (The Tennessee troops were never issued arms, though, and the black unit known as the Louisiana Native Guards never saw action — and quickly switched sides as soon as Union forces appeared.)
But unless readers think that black Confederates were truly enamored of the South’s cause, Stauffer related the case of John Parker, a slave forced to build Confederate barricades and later to join the crew of a cannon firing grapeshot at Union troops at the First Battle of Bull Run. All the while, recalled Parker, he worried about dying, prayed for a Union victory, and dreamed of escaping to the other side.
“His case can be seen as representative,” said Stauffer. “Masters put guns to (the heads of slaves) to make them shoot Yankees.”
I hope you learned a lesson in all this. That lesson is to shut the fuck up when grown folks is talking & maybe try to learn something yourself. The confederate flag is indisputably racist, & denying its history isn’t going to make that fact go away.that was a motherfucking read
And let’s not forget the Confederate Constitution, which specifically states that Black people are to be slaves and that the government wouldn’t be able to pass any law that prohibited slavery upon Black people.
So please tell me again how the Confederate Flag isn’t a symbol of racism and anti-Blackness?